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		<title>An extensive review of the conference, by Claudia Westermann</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Cybernetics: Art, Design, Mathematics — A Meta-Disciplinary Conversation</p>
<p>C:ADM 2010 — International Conference
July 30 – August 02 2010
with surrounding events: July 29-30 and August 03-05
EMPAC: Curtis R. Priem Experimental Media and Performing Arts Center
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY, USA</p>
<p>Reviewed by Claudia Westermann
Vienna University of Technology, Austria</p>
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<p>C:ADM 2010 — International Conference<br />
July 30 – August 02 2010<br />
with surrounding events: July 29-30 and August 03-05<br />
EMPAC: Curtis R. Priem Experimental Media and Performing Arts Center<br />
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY, USA</p>
<p>Reviewed by Claudia Westermann<br />
Vienna University of Technology, Austria</p>
<p>Conferences often present a unique chance to become acquainted with the latest research in a specific field. Yet, the focus within the conventional set up is on the presentation of results related to a precedent research. In contrast, the international conference “C:ADM 2010 — Cybernetics: Art, Design, Mathematics” was an experiment in creating a framework capable of shifting the focus from results to process and, thus, in making the conference itself a laboratory for research. The event was held from July 30 to August 2 of 2010 at the Experimental Media and Performing Arts Center (EMPAC) in Troy, New York. Since the EMPAC has become well known for scheduling a unique and innovative program, it presented a good choice to make it the venue for a conference, to which the subtitle “A Meta-Disciplinary Conversation” explicitly suggested an intention to break with convention.</p>
<p>The conference was organized by the American Society for Cybernetics (ASC) in conjunction with the School of Architecture and the above mentioned EMPAC at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. It is due to the insight and understanding of the conference’s architect and always silently present steersman —Ranulph Glanville — as well as to the engagement of the other organizers [1] who acted on behalf of these various institutional bodies that the experiment in a participatory conference was successful in transferring the conversational model of meetings to a larger scale. A whole series of activities before and after the main conference was important in making the conversational format operate.</p>
<p>Weeks before the main event, the conference initiated online pre-conversations through its social network inspired web presence. The site, devised by Thomas Fischer was conducive in introducing the theme and the participatory framework. Preparations for the conference also included the creation of mobile objects — so called standards  — that participants were asked to bring to the event. They were intended to serve as an additional entry to ideas and interests. On site, preceding activities included a business meeting of the ASC, a workshop on the state of cybernetics run by Stuart Umpleby, as well as tutorials in second order cybernetics. The latter were offered by members of the ASC and held in three parallel sessions. A workshop of three days was scheduled to succeed the main event. Participation in the workshop was open to those who were willing to engage in the preparation of a book dedicated to the conference and its outcomes. The framework thus introduced a flow of interactions that became more dense on the official conference days. It presented itself in the conceptual form of a conversation.</p>
<p>As Gordon Pask described it, and Ranulph Glanville [2] has elaborated on, conversation is non-deterministic interaction. It carries the meaning of learning. The question however is: in which kind of space can it develop? How can this space be framed?</p>
<p>It makes sense to look at this question from the range of overlapping viewpoints that the organizers had defined as art, design and mathematics. Both interested in the borders and possibilities of language, art and mathematics in this context are to be found as counterparts in a space that was once designed to let them meet. Within the transdisciplinary space of second order cybernetics, which is essentially concerned with the inclusion of the observer into a feedback system, questions of designing are not exclusively related to the disciplines that range from architectural to information design. They are at the core of every activity. Accordingly, the aggregate of roughly 80 participants in the conference included researchers with a practice or educational background in mathematics, art and design, yet, also included designers in the wider sense, with a strong relation to other disciplines, such as management, physiotherapy, sociology and anthropology.</p>
<p>A welcome party, followed by a work in progress presentation by EMPAC’s artist in residence Lars Jan opened the main event. It gave a first and impressive idea of how the conference may be related to its site. Speeches including by the local coordinator Ted Krueger and by the EMPAC’s director Johannes Goebel elaborated further on this context on the next morning, and described the role of the EMPAC as a place of initiation towards practice based research. </p>
<p>The conversational part of the conference began with a vocal rehearsal planned by Aartje Hulstein and Ranulph Glanville, and moderated by the latter. What started out as an exercise in singing changing vowels, and provoked in me for a short moment an allusion to ideas of peace in praise, managed quickly to make clear that this was not intended. With the task to catch the changing vowels of one’s neighbor, the exercise evolved into a strange piece of music. Willingness to listen and to give space to the other is seen as an essential condition for conversations to take place and to make them dynamic events to be remembered. The playback of two longer exercises listened/sung in the concert hall of the EMPAC allowed for an astonishing insight into the compositional qualities of conversational activity.</p>
<p>The conversation sessions in principle followed the structure of the introductory exercise. A theme and a set of instructions served to generate a conversation which was followed by the (re-)presentation of the conversation. In variation to the introductory exercise, the conversations took place in smaller working groups, and the conversation-presentation-cycle was iterated once. This series of events was run through twice on the basis of two different themes.</p>
<p>Theme 1 was facilitated by Timothy Jachna, and started a set of questions related to the terms “actual” and “abstract”: </p>
<p>“Moving from actual to abstract is understood; but how do we move from abstract to actual? What are the relations between models that are conceptual, computational and physical? How are the differences productive?” </p>
<p>In a short introductory talk, Paul Pangaro elaborated on this set of questions, and situated the theme within the history and theory of cybernetics. Thereafter, participants split into working groups for the afternoon, in order to refine the theme and to develop from it new questions. One or more members of the group were chosen to serve as rapporteur, and the group’s results were later presented to all participants. The following morning session re-addressed the theme in the working groups and again the results were reported back to all.</p>
<p>Theme 2, facilitated by Christiane M. Herr, followed the same schedule. A talk by Albert Müller introduced to a set of questions related to “cross-over processes” and the “trans-, inter-, or meta-disciplinary subject”.</p>
<p>This was the basic set up. It simulated a surprisingly facile access to a complex task. As a result, it was often astonishing how well the framing helped to generate meaningful conversations. The fact that the themes were not reduced to one basic question was most likely influential in allowing for the group conversations to take very different directions. The themes were well chosen to relate to the concerns of a theory of conversation, and it may be for this reason that they performed as an initiation to conversation. By all means, the framework led to a very intense conference, which engaged people to listen, to contribute, and eventually to change their point of view. Many of the (re-)presentations were entertaining, and theatrical in its best sense. They ranged from dances to decidedly neutral reports, yet, never failed to communicate some of the groups’ experiences. While the group conversations at times had not been without tensions, their presentations transmitted that at the end most groups had learned how to agree to disagree. The keyword “generosity” that Larry Richards once used, might best describe the atmosphere.</p>
<p>It is outside the scope of this review to address the particularities of the many questions and statements that were generated during the sessions. However, both themes generated some recurrent notions. Many questions related to theme 1 were about rules and how to play them. Theme 2 raised numerous notions related to language and metaphor. The material was collected on the conference’s online blog and served as a point of reference during the ongoing sessions. In future, it may serve as a basis for further clarification of the means as well as the relevance of cybernetic activity in contemporary times. </p>
<p>The conference also included presentations that followed the conventional conference structure. They took place during the late evenings of the first two conference days, and also during one lunch break. Interestingly, within the context of the conversational event, there was a perceptional shift to the presentations. It seemed almost as if the themes that people engaged with could be regarded as tools to express different kinds of conversational energies. The contextual change made the presentations truly enjoyable as an experience in an altered point of view.</p>
<p>The sessions closed with a tour of the EMPAC, guided by Johannes Goebel. He gave a detailed account of the building’s planning and construction processes that had generated a whole new research related to the implementation of a performance technology, flexible enough to address the needs of the future. The conference dinner was highlighted by a speech of Ernst von Glasersfeld. His well constructed talk provided also for a summary of the past days. If “knowledge”, as he says, “is and can only be built of concepts that we gather from our experiential world”, C:ADM 2010 international conference provided in fact for a singular opportunity to get to know what Glasersfeld calls a “cybernetic principle”: “having no fixed goal but being open to all the possibilities that come along”.</p>
<p>The workshop that followed the official conference gathered 20 participants for another three days, in order to re-address the conversations, to discuss the outcomes of the conference, and to develop from the material, what may again become a source of inspiration for further research and experience. People engaged in all kinds of activities that might sound strange to those who did not participate in the conference. These included folding paper boats, as well as prototyping paradoxes, and exercising magic knot tricks with ropes. The latter were facilitated by Louis Kauffman. Lev Ledit used the time of the workshop to edit a movie from the material that had been recorded by Judy Lombardi during the conference. It gives an insight into the playfulness and the attitude of tolerance that guided this conference and made it successful in creating an experimental laboratory for research. Both this video and the dinner speech by Ernst von Glasersfeld, as well as many other materials are available from the conference website [1].</p>
<p>References</p>
<p>1. See: https://past.asc-cybernetics.org/2010/.</p>
<p>2. See: Ranulph Glanville, “And He Was Magic”, in Gordon Pask, Philosopher Mechanic, edition echoraum, 2007.</p>
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<p>The above review of the conference, written by Claudia Westermann and published in Leonardo, can also be found <a href="http://www.leonardo.info/reviews/nov2010/westerman_cybernetic.php" target="_new">here</a> and <a href="http://www.leonardo.info/reviews/LRQ/LRQ%201.02.pdf" target="_new">here</a> (on pp. 24-26 in PDF).</p>
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		<title>C:ADM2010 Video</title>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/15300833">C:ADM2010 by Lev Ledit and Judy Lombardi</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user4821875">ASC C:ADM2010</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/15300833">C:ADM2010 by Lev Ledit and Judy Lombardi</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user4821875">ASC C:ADM2010</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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		<title>An abstraction of my actual experiences?</title>
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		<title>Faisal Kadri: Artificial Psychology and Cybernetics</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello All,</p>
<p>CADM was a great exchange of ideas and conversations, I enjoyed making new friends and hope to be in touch with all of you.</p>
<p>Here is my take on how Artificial Psychology (AP) could develop within Cybernetics, comments please!</p>
<p>Faisal</p>
<p><strong>Artificial Psychology as First and Second Order Cybernetics</strong></p>
<p>Faisal L. Kadri</p>
<p>ArtificialPsychology.com</p>
<p>Abstract</p>
<p>First order cybernetics is concerned with objects while second order cybernetics includes the observer in the role of the constructor of the image of reality. Artificial Psychology (AP) simulates personality with motivational and cognitive behavior, studying one AP model mirrors first order cybernetics; the personality model is the object. When two AP models are combined in an interactive duo, the system of the two forms one complex personality model: One acts as the ego, the other as the image of reality, mirroring second order cybernetics.</p>
<p><strong>Introduction to first and second order Cybernetics</strong></p>
<p>Different researchers describe first and second order cybernetics differently, here are some samples which hopefully will converge on concepts relevant to artificial psychology:</p>
<p>Fig. 1 Famous first and second order cybernetics schematic.</p>
<ul>
<li>  The cybernetics of systems that are observed from the outside as opposed to the cybernetics of systems involving their observers (von Foerster), see Fig. 1.</li>
<li>  First-order cybernetics is concerned with circular causal processes, e.g., control, negative feedback, computing, adaptation (Krippendorff).</li>
<li> What must be explained of second order cybernetics: How an individual constructs reality (Umpleby).</li>
<li> Constructivism: the philosophy that models are not passive reflections of reality, but active constructions by the subject (Heylighen).</li>
<li> The implication of constructivism is that since all models are constructed by some observer, this observer must be included in the model for it to be complete (Heylighen).</li>
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<p>Clearly the observer in second order cybernetics constructs an active and adaptive image of the world, or as von Foerster put it: The world, as we perceive it, is our own invention. This is the main concept I will rely upon for developing Second Order Artificial Psychology (SOAP)!</p>
<p><strong>What is Artificial Psychology (AP)?</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong>AP is a simulation of human behavior that mimics motivation as well as cognition. AP can reference (objective) empirical personality measures for validation and viability. How does AP fit in with first and second order cybernetics, and what sets it apart from AI and other approaches? Here are some suggestions:</p>
<p>*     The addition of motivation</p>
<p>Motivation, as its name root means, changes with time. Defining AP in terms of motivation implies dynamic behavior and internal change even in the absence of instructions from the outside. The path of AP development started from studying animal motivation as a continuous nonlinear dynamic process, which describes temporal behavior. In contrast, the simulation of human behavior as described in Herbert Simon&#8217;s influential work (1967) suggests that the emotions, motivations and drives, including &#8220;hunger-thirst&#8221;, can be simulated by interrupt systems driven by events and acting on (linear) negative feedback mechanisms. This concept fed much of current AI activity and designs of chatterbots, and provided for self-reference but no perceived possibility of validation for coherence and invariance. Whereas AP relied on continuous nonlinear systems model of priming and homeostasis, particularly the alternative multiplier feedback regulator, without the requirement for interrupts, and consequently found parallels in personality psychology and humor research which allowed for tests of validation through statistical analysis of survey data.</p>
<p>*     Restricting the media</p>
<p>Unlike cognitive media often used as a starting point in AI, such as the word or the syllable, and other media not based on text such as music and the arts when seen as semiotic symbols, the sentence was found as the medium that can be classified according to motivational scales. The restriction of processing only sentences made it possible to proceed with currently available programming tools.</p>
<p>*      Referencing empirical personality measures</p>
<p>The choice of the sentence as the media for AP provided commonality with personality measures as performed in profiling tests and surveys. Here, a test &#8220;instrument&#8221; often comprises sentences scored by the subjects and collectively define personality dimensions or types. By cross-referencing personality scores AP measures are compared with established concrete personality measures, therefore providing a path for validation. The model used by AP can also be directly referenced against psychological data when the model predicts a preference pattern which can be validated statistically against survey data. Here, the artificial personality model predicted an age preference pattern, which when applied to types of humorous sentences can be tested against humor appreciation survey data. The prediction was tested over several years and using three on-line surveys; in all tests the data analysis supported the prediction, and in a statistical measure of coherence a level of 75-93% probability of consistency was recorded. There was no reliance on self-referencing in the tests; if the statistical evidence did not support the AP model&#8217;s prediction then the model can be deemed wrong, which contrasts with AI models such as ALICE which relies on self-referencing; you cannot dispute ALICE&#8217;s correctness.</p>
<p>*     The parallel with second order cybernetics</p>
<p>In the AP software implementation George and Mary (GaM), two artificial personalities exchange sentences and motivational re-enforcements. Looking at the personalities separately, each (simplex) personality can be seen as first order cybernetics where the personality model acts as an object or a self contained system. When two artificial personalities are combined in an interactive duo (duplex), such as in GaM, the duplex of the two can form one complex personality: One simplex acts as the ego and the other as a virtual imagination or the image of reality. Dialog emanating from the ego and addressing person A is copied to the virtual imagination where an image of person A resides. When person A responds, his/her sentence is checked against his/her image before being transmitted to the ego. The parallel with second order cybernetics is clear. The sentence checking process provides the means to recognize if person A is conversing out of character, in which case his image can be updated in an adaptive manner. The process can include parser based AI unit, parsers are an area of high research activity in AI, thus existing AI research complements AP, not replace it. Simulating normal psychology, the degree of adaptation or learning ability can be specified by a constant as suggested by Umpleby, the constant can be a characteristic of the duplex and has a value range of 0 to 1 to indicate the speed of learning. Here are three possible scenarios to simulate psychopathologies, Schizophrenia may be simulated in part by making the artificial imagination hyper active while stifling communication with the outside world. The ego which normally accesses only one repertoire of sentences could be made to have multiple, simulating multiple personality. Autism’s telltale symptom is having no empathy or imagination of the others and how they feel, this is a clear reference to the functioning of the imagination which could be modeled by suppressing the activity of the artificial imagination.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusions</strong></p>
<p>Artificial Psychology (AP) belongs to the field of cybernetics. Moreover, unlike Artificial Intelligence (AI) and other cybernetics models, AP can reference concrete empirical data and validate or disprove its models.</p>
<p>Having parallel with second order cybernetics, AP may have significant potential in modeling normal and abnormal psychology, and improve the understanding and teaching of otherwise difficult psychological conditions.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This conference was like no other that I have attended (and there have been many), and like nothing that I know of in the sciences, and so I was inspired to write a very brief poem. Thank-you for your tolerance ...]]></description>
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<p>Each person an arc of a circle</p>
<p>Some greater, some lesser, all now simply joining;</p>
<p>A plane full of circles</p>
<p>That hold, then fragment</p>
<p>Into so many arcs, some greater, some lesser,</p>
<p>All minds reconfigured</p>
<p>Transformed by refreshment, now newly made persons</p>
<p>Each person an arc of a circle.</p>
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		<title>Alec Robertson: Li and the Artificial &#8211; Designing the Future through 4D Design</title>
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		<title>Michele Emmer: Metaphor, Metamprphose in Math, Design &amp; Architecture</title>
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		<title>Reflections on the Conference: Causes and Reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 15:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>One of the key questions which has emerged from the conference for me relates to the nature of causality. Ernst reminded us that he believes (with David Hume) that causes are not real but constructed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m much less certain of this. </p>
<p>My second session group talked about politics and ethics. Larry&#8217;s summing-up was very elegant and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the key questions which has emerged from the conference for me relates to the nature of causality. Ernst reminded us that he believes (with David Hume) that causes are not real but constructed.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13.2px">I&#8217;m much less certain of this. </span></p>
<p>My second session group talked about politics and ethics. Larry&#8217;s summing-up was very elegant and it draws attention to the moral and ethical sides of cybernetics. Put simply, my reality might be a construct, but my actions resulting from my reality affect you and are your reality. They affect your wellbeing, freedom, etc. In other words, constructing carries with it some duty to acknowledge the likely effects on a shared environment of other people, or (in the case of architecture) things which other people engage with. Conversely, my &#8216;constructing&#8217; depends on the actions you take with regard to your reality. Those &#8216;likely effects&#8217; seem common to human experience and as such might have some claim for being &#8216;real&#8217;.</p>
<p>We have had a good conference because it was thoughtfully designed to maximise the opportunities for individuals to listen and express themselves. But I wonder if in that thoughtful design there is an implicit notion of &#8216;real&#8217; causes which 2nd order cybernetics struggles to articulate. Personally, I&#8217;d like my cybernetics to allow me the freedom to at least consider the possibility of an ontological world, just as it lends itself to allowing me to consider the possibility of the absence of reality.</p>
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		<title>Mark Johnson: A Musical Journey into Perception and Memory</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 04:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The presentation slides of Mark Johnson’s ‘A Musical Journey into Perception and Memory’ can be downloaded <a href="https://past.asc-cybernetics.org/2010/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Mark_Johnson.pdf">here</a>.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The presentation slides of Mark Johnson’s ‘A Musical Journey into Perception and Memory’ can be downloaded <a href="https://past.asc-cybernetics.org/2010/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Mark_Johnson.pdf">here</a>.</p>
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